Let’s be honest, frats thrive off of their exclusivity. It’s telling that everyone that agrees with you isn’t in a frat or sorority... they don’t see the real benefits. The Abolish Greek life movement that has been sweeping across the country has made its way to Tech. This sounds a lot like my experience 15-20 years ago at Cal. IV now has about 50 tents of unhoused folk in it parks... don't see the rules being followed at those. Leave the students to fraternize as they see fit. The only part of your argument I have a problem with is “a low 3.0 in humanities”.... idk I feel like this statement was unnecessary, it puts down student’s accomplishments and major/passions regardless of whether they’re involved in Greek life or not... has a very god-complex tone to me. For a better tomorrow, we must #AbolishGreekLife. I know people personally who have been roofied, raped, sexually assaulted, etc... at frats and for their sake I will not be standing by idly. also why is this comment controversial lol. "other people are partying too" yes and? I've drove down DP on a weekend night, and it seems like it's more of an IV issue than a greek life issue, which is only 10% of the school, and an even smaller percentage of IV. Back. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. When I got divorced, my brothers were my support system. EDIT: After reading some comments, I should clarify I mean social orgs such as IFC and Panhellenic. About. My guess is that it would probably be more likely for their national organization to take away their charter so maybe just a lot of snitching when they party but there has to be a less tedious way. Fraternities and sororities are built on systems of exclusion, oppression, and violence. Back. Nobodies keeping you up night (and if they are knock on their door, and if it persists call the cops), the pandemic is staying regardless, and quite frankly you just sound like you don’t like Greek life because they annoy you. The only reason people join greek life is because they can't move on from high school and don't give me that philanthropy and academics bullshit. Has anyone else’s school have an abolish Greek life movement going on? There is a lot of good work to do here in IV, helping our unhoused and essential workers be safer too, in a kind and generous way. If you aren't aware, multiple houses have already faced serious sanctions for it and if there's proof/pictures the respective greek councils look into it. Focus inward, not outward. Thank you for speaking out for Greek Life. At least say 'suspend' greek life cuz of covid rather than just abolish. I'm not even part of a frat but using the select few worst examples and extrapolating that to the whole group of frats is pure ignorance. If Greek life is truly about connecting with other people than the drinking and the partying don’t and shouldn’t be a regular thing. I'm just a Berkeley citizen, who's lived here for most of my life. If you’re going to try and discredit my argument, please do so without arrogance. what about the aspiring physicians or lawyers in the pre-professional co ed frats that benefit from the resources these orgs provide? and a low 3.0 average after having literal test banks and answer keys isn't that impressive either, please find a new hobby. News, questions, and discussions for the people of UCSB and IV. You must be one of those “respect me and my choices, but I have no respect for you or yours” types. Press J to jump to the feed. Even if you aren’t in the roughly 40 percent of undergraduates who join a fraternity or sorority, their influence can be hard to escape, since they often dictate when the parties are, where the parties are, and exactly who’s invited. At Northwestern, the Greek system is the absolute authority on social life. Not just people you agree with or like, *everyone/anyone*. Uh oh, watch out Thad and Chad. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.361933014be843c79476.css.map*/I also really feel for some of the AC Transit drivers. Color me surprised. In recent months, movements to abolish Greek Life organizations on college campuses have sprung up across the country. If you look outside you’ll also see it’s not just them, that half of IV is still partying, and getting rid of frats won’t stop that. You don't need to funnel your donation money through your organization so they get a tax break, just donate it yourself. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. it should def be a case by case basis and of course any frat that's been endangering the community should be punished. IFC chapter presidents and the administrators in the CSI will likely discuss calls to abolish Greek Life in a meeting on July 13, according to Corsiglia’s email. Fiji is recognized by the IFC now, they don’t throw parties as much because if they get one more issue arise from their parties they could get unrecognized. Abolish Greek Life. Also, just because 1 frat parties, doesn’t mean they all do. I get that it’s mostly white people, but I think that’s a bit condescending or disregarding of non white people in Greek Life that enjoy it. Chapters [10]: Chapman University (@abolishgreeklifechapman) Denison University (@abolishdukeifcandpanhellenic) Duke University (@du_abolishgreek) Emory University (@abolishemorygreeklife) University of Richmond (@abolishrichmondgreeklife) This thread has been locked by the moderators of r/berkeley. It will be a test for Greek life and the Abolish Greek Life movement alike. Also what do you mean by abolish? The only reason people join greek life is because they can't move on from high school and don't give me that philanthropy and academics bullshit. We are college students, alumni, and activists who reject the continuation of fraternity and sorority life. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/06/30/harvard-rescinds-policy-against-fraternities-sororities-other-single-gender-organizations/. You act like there aren’t older people that live in IV who are at risk because students won’t stop partying. Disagree. That isn’t to say that there isn’t a lot of work that needs to still be done, but I do believe that the dismissal of all feats like this isn’t a good thing. I dont have any love for greek life but a lot of the arguments against it reek of sour grapes. when we think of greek life, we might automatically think of these reckless frat boys and sorority girls who are partying, but it is much bigger than that so do we get rid of them all or do we find a way to remove only the problematic chapters? Press J to jump to the feed. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Calls for restructuring White Greek life are not new, but cries to abolish them have sharpened in recent months. We cannot adequately reform Greek life. Yup, and greek life is sanctioning houses if there is proof, last I heard students who throw parties aren't facing any consequences. The councils have about 1,400 members each. 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