That you bow down and pary to dead flesh and bones not only goes against his Word, but also is a disgusting display. Diego Armando Maradona at Olympic stadium in Rome 12-10-2014. 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many. How do you know which is right? To Generosus, Our Most Loved and Honourable Brother, Fortunatus, Alypius, and Augustine Send Greeting in the Lord. Protestants blame Catholics for worshipping Mary and Catholics think Protestants are apparently too dull to understand the distinctions Rome has made in this regard. 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Catholics differ in their beliefs also. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. No problem as i live in earth as a good soul now and believe in reincarnation. This is bizarre and unhealthy. You don’t pray ‘to’ others who “died in the faith,” there is one intercessor, ONE mediator between God the Father and man and that is Jesus Christ. Do a little more studying about the Catholic religion, and you will find out more of what they believe. These are what the Catholic Church entitles “The Incorruptables”; the doctrine is that these people led such “holy” lives their bodies did not decompose. Christ said “Upon this rock”, meaning Himself, not Peter. Whenever you pray to anyone spiritually, that is a form of worship. How would they know how to interact with the people that they supposedly LEAD? It is not a pagan custom, but a custom rooted very firmly in Biblical truth. When considering relics, it is to be remembered that the body and soul are forever one, even when they seem to be separated by death. The statues also received places of honour in the Synod Hall during the actual Synod proceedings. However, to stop the progress of technology is against nature, human nature. I trust Jesus. The explicit steps in the establishing of such a hierachy are clearly seen in Scripture. I agree with you, Chad. Yet they must also admit that not one of their denominations has any right to claim that it itself is the True Church. And if you really love Jesus, you will listen to Him and obey Him. Once the body is sealed within its final coffin, with only the deceased pontiff’s family and immediate household present to attend him, he is lowered into the crypt below St. Peter’s, through the Confession of St. Peter, where the sanpietrini place the heavy cargo on a wagon, to be wheeled to the place the pontiff chose himself for his final resting place. perhaps not….but they didn’t die today. Pope Celestino is kept in the open of St. Maria of Collemaggio Church in L’Aquila in central Italy. [John 3:16]. But God himself says idolatry/idol worship is not to be done, then guess what? 54 So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earth-quake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, “Truly this was the Son of God!”, “Catholic worship of corpses, skulls and bones has its origin in the crypt in St. Peters Basilica in the Vatican.” It’s not easy to live in this world where evil seems to not only exist, but wins out over the best human efforts to be honest and good. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Relics are Biblical. I’m not sure I understand you lesson in Catholic pope burials. His direct words was to Simon renamed Peter??? John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. This in plain languages, that even kids can read and understand. To these things all the Asiatic churches testify, as do also those men who have succeeded Polycarp down to the present time” (ibid., 3:3:4). The Master Christ made the remains of the saints to be fountains of salvation to us, pouring forth manifold blessings and abounding in oil of sweet fragrance: and let no one disbelieve this. In the law every one who toucheth a dead body was considered impure, but these are not dead. After resurrection of Jesus, the Christian Church suffered greatly from persecution. There was a time when God was giving new revelations as He was unfolding the plan of salvation. It will show you that all of the catholic traditions have been taken directly from babylonian worship. and whose heart turns away from the Lord. The RCC say babies baptized are born again. do not judge by the outward appearance. Blessings. Some stranger’s pocketwatch is just a timepiece, but one given to you by your grandfather is something you’d literally mourn losing. What answer do you think you’ll get when you pray to Mary who was a sinner like us all? All Rights Reserved © Novinite JSC., 2001-2021. St. Paul was unquestionably part of the Body of Christ. A dead Pope, denied a place to rest in a tomb of silence. Foreign media analysis on Bulgaria and World News in Brief are also part of the web site and the online newspaper. Thus, many of the arguments between a Protestant and a Catholic will revolve around one’s “private interpretation” of Scripture as against the “official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.” Catholics claim to successfully avoid the legitimate problems of private interpretation by their reliance on their tradition. But many choose to ignore his word, and only follow some of it, or add to his word. Pax to all the Popes. His brief reign will bring unprecedented terror to the earth before our Righteous King Jesus vanquishes the Antichrist. Others caught the magic of Simon Magus. but they are contrary to the Holy Scriptures and are the doctrines of demons which will have no happy ending but the fire of hell unless one repents and is baptized. This is a picture of the Tomb of St. Pius V in the Church of St. Mary Major. You will have to spend eternity there, just as the Bible explains: Revelation 9:20 Anyone who truely believes that…..is calling Christ a liar because he said He would be with His Church until the end of time (Matthew 28:20), and He also promised “The gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (Matthew 16:18). if you commit a murder, will your state police let you free without punishing you ? but in christianity, animals ,birds and plants have no souls and they were created for the pleasure of human beings. Soon after, a sarcophagus would be fashioned by one of the great artists of the era, marking the grave site for all time. In both East and West the reverence we pay to images has crystallized into formal ritual. This including popes like Innocent IX, Benedicts XII and XV, Pius XI and Paul VI. Where can you get this living water? You are even listening to a man who sins by being called “Holy Father”! Your coment: how can he wash your sins by his blood? Alex, God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood —to be received by faith. Before the celibacy edict the priest owned the property. Jeremiah 2:8 He gave them His legislative, or disciplinary power: “He who hears you, hears Me, and he who despises you despises Me.” (Luke 10:16), “Whatsoever you bind on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven.” (Matthew 18:18), “If a man will not hear the Church, let him be to thee as the heathen.” (Matthew 18:17). You say Catholic church history is “undisputed”…according to who? So, the reason that we keep the relics of the saints on or near the altar when we celebrate Mass is to remind us that the Church on earth and the Church in Heaven is the same Church, and that, when we celebrate Mass, these same saints are truly with us and are worshiping the Lord with us. There was a time when God’s Word came in the form of prophetic and apostolic speech as well as the written form. so that in next birth you can still enjoy your soul itself instead of getting salvation from your jealous god crusified. Italy, 19th century. And as a man was being buried, lo, a marauding band was seen and the man was cast into the grave of Elisha; and as soon as the man touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood on his feet” (2 Kgs. You know that there are liberal Catholics and traditional Catholics, Eastern and Western, Sedevacantist, etc. And the Bible doesn’t say anything about NOT disturbing a grave. No priest would lead the fasithfull to worsdhip anyone but Christ alone! This particular battle is rooted in history you guys know! you don’t pray to the Dead. Catholics do things that we are commanded not to. 2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. I;m with Casey on this subject. The media has allowed us to believe every word they say, and in return, It is fruitless, and leads to nothing. The Bible says we hall not call any created thing Holy. Repent or perish. What happens when a Pope dies? What would you add to the Bible? In my family, we have a family cemetery. One had to look at the bronze statue of the serpent to be healed, which shows that statues could be used ritually, not merely as religious decorations. Exodus 13:19 “And Moses took Joseph’s bones with him: because he had adjured the children of Israel, saying: God shall visit you, carry out my bones from hence with you.”, 4 Kings 13:20-21 “And Eliseus died, and they buried him. We have never done cremation. That is what happened in the development of the Roman Catholic church. In accordance with different cultures, some lay flowers on the graves of their departed friends. ye shall know them by their fruits. Christ is the head of the church and we are His body. He is a prophet. I suppose thats why it’s Catholicism and not Judaism. Romans 2:6-8 He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. As a Catholic It is impossible on this vitriolic Catholic bashing website to get anywhere with this bunch. But read by whom? One can be prolific in many ways, but one factor HAS to be there and that is to LIVE life among the people. Please continue to pray for Catholics and others caught up in ‘religious systems’ who urgently need to know the ‘true and living God/Jesus’, and NOT one of man’s making. Both sides can also be fiercely loyal to their family’s faith or the church they grew up in without much thought to doctrinal arguments. The scripture about private interpretation, 2 Peter 1:20, Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. Bookmark the permalink. I respect your choices and your freedom of conscience. The bas-relief shows the victory over the Turks in Vienna in 1683. Jesus took your death. Italy, 19th century. […] skulls and bones and tagged Bible, Catholic, Christianity, jesus, pope, rome, Vatican. Coronavirus: What Has Happened to Us, People. Did the Eucharist change them? Sadly, history repeats itself. From: 'St. I enjoyed reading your post Katerina, I cant say that I understood all of it, and maybe that is the point. And some that were burying a man, saw the rovers, and cast the body into the sepulchre of Eliseus. The Christian will not permit any man or creature to usurp the throne of his Lord. “Cursed is the one who trusts in man, … If people become better Hindus, better Muslims, better Buddhists by our acts of love, then there is something else growing there.”. When they move a body, or open a tomb for one reason or another and the body is deemed incorrupted they are put on display from time to time for the public, and often for debate. When Catholics hear things that the Pope says, do you check it out to see if it is scriptural? Recent archaeological excavations reveal that this practice was not exclusive to Egyptians only but even in modern day Great Britain where mummies dating back to 1500BC where excavated. Not all the dead Popes are put for display inside the Vatican. The perfect example of an intercessor would be of Mary, the Mother of Jesus. That is why I believe in sola Scriptura. Christianity brain washes and engage in ” soul harvesting , corrupting your mind and fooling people. twins born to a mother- one child became rich after ages passed while other child when grown to adult is suffering in health and become poor. If you possess the TRUTH as you claim you do. The Catholic religion is not Christian. The Catholic Church recognizes and venerates Saints because they led exceptional lives in union with GOD and in return for their good works and perfect example, GOD blessed them with miracles through their prayers and intercessions. Put no man before the Lord and how many of us Catholics were instructed to read church teachings from popes & saints which kept us from reading the Lord’s words. So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if a serpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live” (Num. The Church just says that relics may be the occasion of God’s miracles, and in this the Church follows Scripture. The question which probably worries none believers is why Popes are preserved in this way. Counterfeit faith is deceptively similar, but it is powerless and useless to save. The divine Scripture likewise saith that the souls of the just are in God’s hand and death cannot lay hold of them. The Pope confined him to a house arrest, and though he managed to escape for a time, he was eventually confined to a tower in Castel Fumone. “The true knowledge is the doctrine of the apostles, and the ancient organization of the Church throughout the whole world, and the manifestation of the body of Christ according to the succession of bishops, by which succession the bishops have handed down the Church which is found everywhere” (ibid., 4:33:8). Whereas all doctrine must be prejudged as false which savors of contrariety to the truth of the churches and apostles of Christ and God. I plan to ask our Lord about the Arc- two of every creature, wood ship- two termites ? There are over 100 tombs within St. Peter’s Basilica (extant to various extents), many located in the Vatican grotto, beneath the Basilica. For Catholic and Orthodox Christians, these passages confirm their belief that God chooses to work miracles through material items associated with saints. For the rock (Petra) is the original name. They had with them spices and perfumed oils, because this was the tradition. Tony, We model this god to suit our own personal agenda just like the the power hungry of old. You shall have no other gods, this religion breaks the law of God. he said ”i am a man sent by god’ read bible The ceremony in St Peter’s Square, one of several over three days, will hark back to the funeral of the charismatic pope, which was one of the biggest media events of the new century. “But since We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty…”, http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13praec.htm. This was because Christian cities valued the title for the last resting place of the most famous saints. – celebrity gossip, Get breaking celeb entertainment news, photos, videos favorite hollywood stars wetpaint.. […], […] The Vatican full of dead Popes kept for display The walking dead (tv series) – wikipedia, free, The walking dead american horror drama television series developed frank darabont, based comic book series robert kirkman, tony. There are literally thousands of Protestant congregations, and none of them believe exactly the same thing. For men who wished to be built upon men, said ‘I am of Paul; and I am of Apollos; and I of Cephas,’ who is Peter. Further St. James enjoins the Christians to “pray for one another that you may be saved. We honor corpses, skulls, bones, statues, saints and any other sacramental. Tell them you want to put it in one of the corners or alcoves so people an visit and share the message. What Jesus was emphasizing is based on what Peter had declare by revelation of the Father, when he said: “Thou are the Christ, the son of the Living God.” Notice what Jesus said to Peter, “…and on this rock I will build my church.” He didn’t say, “and upon you Peter” but on what Peter had declared. I think you might want to delve a little deeper into information about popes and the Catholic church and its beliefs and teaching. If that first born son was a priest those lands, those inheritances went to the church. Ac 13:37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption. Exiled Catholic British royalty James Francis Edward Stuart and his two sons, Charles Edward Stuart and Henry Benedict Stuart, are buried here, having been granted asylum by Pope Clement XI. G_d’s Word is our shield. The pope's body is visible under the St. Sebastian altar on the opposite side of the basilica. The editorial staff also publishes a daily online newspaper "Sofia Morning News." With Stephen VI out of the way, things finally started to look up for Formosus. In the face of death they would not renounce Jesus! Since Elisha was a man of God, there was surely no idols in his tomb, no gold on his bones. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. My Comment: Respecting one another is essential. I am His disciple and I share His convictions. That worked out pretty well for the Church. (Jeremiah 17:5 NIV84). It’s really about the money and property. Among the saints pictured by journalist Elizabeth Harper is St Paula Frassinetti, displayed in a glass coffin at the Convent of St Dorotea in Rome. Simply by reading all those other people’s teaching and spending hours saying their formulated prayers or venerating the bones of saints, we have placed other men before the Lord. Rome, Museo Centrale Del Risorgimento Get premium, high resolution news photos at Getty Images The Bible says worship God in spirit and in truth. But keep up the good work in the name of JESUS to show all the wrong doings of the Antichrist Church. If I do not, I do not love you. If a loved one dies, we may keep a lock of their hair as a memento. However, that does not give license for caricatures or ignorant judgments – both sides need to be honest in their assessments and try not go beyond what God has revealed. The Ten Commandments. Faith implies the correct understanding of, and assent to, the teaching of the Bible about Christ. For if she is with [the heretic] Novatian, she was not with [Pope] Cornelius. This practice is rather strange. From: 'St. That being so, the order would have been: ’Go and print out’, instead of saying “go and preach to all people” (Mt. For God is Life and Light, and those who are in God’s hand are in life and light. It is the third altar built over Peter's tomb. But not all the Popes are buried and kept for display inside the Vatican. You said: how can a god protrayed prophet die in cross crusified along with three robbers together. Another reason why relics are not pagan is because we see the Christian custom already in use in the Bible. Satan will have his own false version of the Messiah soon. There is more to Catholicism than what meets the eye and what you have been told. It is anti-God and does NOT reconcile with Judaism in any way, shape or form. We too keep some priests Saints body’s for viewing and we venerate the rerlics, NOT worship therm! No relic can save you nor heal you. Isaiah 53 and 58 are two of the most power scriptures in the Old Testament that makes me smile when I think about all that Yeshua has relieved to your people. In this order of succession no Donatist bishop is found. This is not to worship the dead, but to pray that if they are in purgatory, that mercy be shown on them and be admitted into the kingdom of God. Truth in ISOLATION is HERESY and they are masters at it. 21 Once while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders; so they threw the man’s body into Elisha’s tomb. If you do not believe in Jesus and die without him, truthfully with love I say it is hell where you will be going. Leaders of countries are allowed to rest in peace, so let whom-you-believe-to-be-fellow-believers rest in peace. No one must continue to pursue what they do not believe. Innocent XI was beatified Oct. 7, 1956, his feast day is August 13. Just in case the horns do not work. The body of the saved will be resurrected and glorified (the bodies of the damned will also be resurrected, for that matter). The priests did not ask, ‘Where is the LORD?’ Those who deal with the law did not know me; the leaders rebelled against me. A.D. 676 – 754/87, in his “Exposition of the Orthodox Faith”: These [the bodies of the Saints] are made treasuries and pure habitations of God: For I will dwell in them, said God, and walk in them, and I will be their God. Jesus said don’t Judge so that u won’t be subjected to be judged. At the appointed time, the body was carried in great solemnity to the High Altar for the Mass of the Dead. 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. I will put my faith in Christ, and in no one esle. The theological idea was that celibacy would create pure hearts in service to God. What kind of an EXAMPLE can these priests be? All I need to know: Do people obey Jesus. What is so difficult to understand not to bow to a statue or relic? Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. There is not enough evidence to say that the leaders of the Catholic church are practicing paganism because of what they do. You to widen your history to check all areas of Catholicism to understand them! So this is why I say to every Hindu, Muslim, Catholic, and even those who claim to a different Jesus from the one in the bible. A great clanking re-echoed from chapel to chapel; it was caused by the taps of the coffin which was being sealed, and crossed with violet ribbons. jesus story is a great imagination of some foolish person. Here is part of an article that tells about the practice of the Catholic Church bowing to and incensing objects. Christ would also have ordered people to distribute Bibles to everyone. This incarnational dimension of the Christian Faith is sorely rejected by Protestants …which is why they overlook passages like Acts 19:11-12 and don’t immediately recognize relics to be Biblical. The roof this Church came down during the earthquake on April 6th 2009. The bodies of those dedicated to God in baptism are authentic Temples of the Holy Spirit. 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